Is Mrs. Baptiste a politician or a religious leader?
I do believe that Mrs. Baptiste is the Jonah of SVG, God sent her on a mission to preach and teach his word. She lost her way and jumped on a wagon (politics) that was not meant for her. Hence, she was swallowed up by the whale and got washed up on the shore.
Now Mrs. Baptiste you need to get back on to that road that God had sent you on. You need to go back to the religious drawing board and study the bible well and then come back to the people of SVG with the true teachings of Jesus Christ.
Remember, “Those who knoweth the way and doeth it not shall be beaten with many, many stripes”.
I spoke to Mr. Nyron Medina in 2010 when this article first surfaced and you ought to be informed that the entire article is a fraud. It was written as if it is true by citing real and fake people’s names and was obviously used as a malicious plank in Trinidad and Tobago by a slanderous blog. Nyron Medina was never accused of nor faced any charges in any court of law in Trinidad and Tobago for child abuse.
The article is written in a manner that suggests there was an interview or interviews conducted. However, Nyron Medina never gave such statements attributed to him in that blog. It is for this reason, the person (s) in question never dared publish such slander on the daily papers in Trinidad and Tobago.
You would do well to consider the following statement sent to all media houses in SVG more than 2 years ago on 22nd March, 2010 when a similar attempt to slander me was made by propagandists by digging up this old slanderous piece and forwarding it to local media houses:
“I write to state my position on information that is being circulated in the public concerning me and my association with the Thusia Seventh-Day Adventist Church in Trinidad & Tobago. It has been brought to my attention that there is a particular article being spread around, entitled “When Religious Beliefs Justify Child Abuse” dated November 10, 1997 and claiming to come out of reporting from Trinidad. I am also reliably informed that this piece has been submitted to Media Houses in St. Vincent and the Grenadines. If it has not reached you as yet, it may come your way very soon. This article is an elaborate hoax using real names of persons as well as fake names. If such were to be published now in Trinidad and Tobago, before the persons whose names have been called, such rumors which are slanderous would attract lawsuits for libel accordingly.
Besides, this subject has nothing to do with me personally, nor with any policy position that I have espoused as someone with leadership desires. The Roman Catholic Church in Europe, England, Ireland and the USA has been implicated in a lot of child sex scandals. Does that mean that the Prime Minister of SVG, who is a Roman Catholic, practices those things and that this is how he will run or runs this Country? Additionally, the Prime Minister has association with Iran, a Muslim Country accused of terrorism. Does that mean the Prime Minister will run the Country with Islamic Terrorism policies? If by my association with the church in Trinidad I am to be likened unto child sex abusers based on these allegations against it (the church), then it would mean that every Muslim is to be considered terrorists because of the few Muslims who bombed the twin towers and caused the death of thousands in the United States of America.
This is foolish logic and does not and should not be applied to me. It is a mere attempt to introduce scandals surrounding my name in effort to bring my good character and reputation into disrepute, by those who are clearly afraid and threatened by the influence of my work. I shall not be bogged down into this kind of filthy practice of politics which is unhelpful to the good people of our blessed Country.”
You are advised to consult www.escapeforthylife.com for a genuine account of what the Thusia Seventh day Adventist Church believes and teaches and to stop trying to dig up derogatory things about Thusians, without critical investigation, knowing that a lot of fraudulent things are published on the internet.
Callaloo does not have poisonous libel in it and therefore Vinci Kalaloo is bringing dishonorable shame to the Country by giving the impression that they have done critical and investigative research. Whosoever is behind this Vinci Kalaloo blog is evidently out to slander my name by association and this person is also an enemy of progress in SVG and their statements against me are not to be taken seriously by right thinking persons
Finally, this low, gutter level of conversation, I will not be involved in, while higher principles for the progress of SVG are ignored.
Thirty-two year old David Wong is a bitter man. He has lost his wife and two children to a religious group, he says. Wong (not his real name) says he himself was fortunate to escape with his life after he was severely beaten by members of the group when he tried to wrest his daughters away.
He now considers himself, like many others here, a victim of the Thusia church. Previously an unknown entity in a country that prides itself on religious tolerance, the church shot into the limelight recently when another father, Roy Joseph, sued his estranged wife for custody of their 11-year-old daughter as a result of alleged abuse at the hands of the leaders of the organization.
In the presence of the press and police, the girl told a harrowing story of both physical and sexual abuse at the hands of her mother, who is a member of the group, and other members. The girl said she was barred from attending school, severely beaten for “possession by evil spirits,” and often went without food.
“They said I had evil in me and they had to beat it out. They blamed me and beat me because they said I was lying and masturbating,” the girl said, as her father lifted her clothes to show bruises all over her body.
In response, the church hierarchy, which confirmed the beatings, quoted passages from the Bible to justify their actions. “The rod of correction driveth away foolishness from the child’s heart,” was one of the passages used. The girl’s mother agreed with the action of the members of the church, saying the child has a “stubborn spirit.”
“If the civil law in Trinidad and Tobago had respected the law of God, she would have been put to death,” says the leader of the church, Nyron Medina.
Since the girl’s story was revealed to the local media, the authorities have launched an investigation into the operation of the group, which is based in the poor district of Morvant in the mountainous northwestern portion of the island.
The group, founded in 1985 by 42-year-old Medina, a lanky, bushy-haired, bearded man, is officially called the Thusia Seventh Day Adventist Church. The membership comprises about 150 persons, including a 12-member board of elders. Four women are among the elders.
Following the widespread publicity and the attempts of the group to present itself as a genuine body, the local headquarters of the Seventh Day Adventist Church (SDA) has made it clear that the group is not affiliated with it.
“This is an offshoot group. They do not have fellowship with us. We disassociate ourselves from the beliefs, activities, and practices of that group. They do not represent SDA doctrines,” says Cyril Horrell, Executive Secretary of the South Caribbean Conference of the SDA.
Meanwhile, in a sermon to his flock denouncing the media publicity, Medina said the beatings the child got were “well within the law. All she said was lies, and you all rush to print the lies.” Medina, who claims to be a medical doctor, says the child had a sexual disease which she contracted from playing with cats. But the child said that she was sexually assaulted several times by a member of the church.
“I used to refuse, but he used to beat me and I had to do it. He would kiss my lips as I lay on top of him,” the girl said.
Medina also admits the child was not allowed to attend school. He says that only children the group felt were strong enough to withstand the contamination of public schools were allowed to attend.
The publicity now being given to the movement has prompted some defectors to come forward to tell their story. One former member, who said she wasted five years with the group, is convinced that it is a “sex-based” cult. She related several stories of attempts by the elders to encourage her daughter to engage in sexual acts.
The woman, who requested anonymity, says the indoctrination process is very gradual. While she was a member she was not allowed to question certain practices such as members not being allowed to read any other book apart from the Bible.
“I went through real hell to get out of there. People think Medina is God. They worship him and he can do no wrong,” says the 45-year-old woman. “The people still in there are hypnotized. When Medina is talking, you have to look him straight in the eye,” she adds.
Raphael Bain of Mayaro, southeast Trinidad, had a similar story to tell. He had three siblings and their spouses in the group; his brother Wilfred Fortune and his sister Susan Fortune-Gold are still members.
Bain says members of the church are discouraged from having children. They say “Christ is coming soon,” and now is not the time to be having children.
Other beliefs require men to wear long hair and a beard, while women must wear ankle-length clothes and keep their hair in its natural state. Members are also required to maintain a vegetarian diet.
“Going to parties and the cinema, following friends, watching TV – you cannot do that and follow Jesus, so we do not advocate such things,” Medina says.
As for Suzanne Fortune-Gold, Bain says his sister left her five children behind when she joined the movement. Those children are now in the care of her mother-in-law. Bain said his sister believes her mission is “to preach the word [of God].”
Two years after joining the group, her marriage broke up as she had been told by the group she had to leave her husband if he was not prepared to become a member. They are now divorced.
Meanwhile, Roy Joseph’s 11-year-old girl is in the care of the state, awaiting a custody hearing on December 1, 1997. Lawyers following the case say that in any question of custody, the Family Law Act says the welfare of the minor is regarded as the “first and paramount consideration.”
This article was prepared by Sex Weekly Plus editors from staff and other reports.
Did Anesia Baptiste attend the St. Vincent Girls High School?
Was she named a National Scholar for outstanding performance at the Community College?
Did Anesia attended the UWI St. Augustine Campus in Trinidad?
Anesia was a member of the Streams of Power Church in Sion Hill?
Did she leave the Streams of Power Church to become a member of the Seventh Day Adventist Church?
Did Anesia leave the Seventh Day Adventist Church to become a member of the Independent Thusia Seventh Day Adventist Church?
Is Nyron Medina of the Thusia Seventh Day Adventist Church of Trinidad and Tobago Anesia’s spiritual guide, leader and religious mentor?
As a student at UWI in Trinidad, did Anesia spend some time on the picket line protesting against Hindus for their “ungodly practices”?
Did she refuse to speak to her own mother for 5 – 7 years? If so why? Was it family or religious differences?
Is Anesia the sister of the late Kenton Richards who died just before graduating from St. George’s University as a medical doctor? Did he at one point need a blood transfusion? If so did he get it and from whom?
Is Anesia is childless to date? If so is this in keeping with the alleged Thusian belief that it is pointless to give birth in this day and age since the end of the world is near?
Is Anesia Baptiste is the spiritual leader of the Thusia Seventh Day Adventist Church of St. Vincent and the Grenadines. Does the number of members exceed 12?
Was Anesia was turned down for an award from the US authorities because of her anti-semitic rhetoric?
Were Radio programs produced and presented by Anesia’s organization (TIRL) and/or her church discontinued by two radio stations (NICE Radio and Star FM)? If so, why? Was it for inflammatory content?
Were some members of Anesia’s Thusia Seventh Day Adventist Church once forcibly removed by police from the congregation of the Layou Seventh Day Adventist Church for disruptive behaviour? Can Ms Baptiste please clarify?
This post was revised in view of a threat to sue from Mrs Anesia Baptiste. She posted on Facebook as follows:
At 10:07am today 8th May, 2012, Vinci Kalaloo posted an article on my page “15 Little Known Facts About Anesia Baptiste”. It contained slanderous and Libelous information against my name and character and I have issued the following on Vinci Kalaloo’s page at 10:31am: “I have read this piece from Leslie Patterson published by you Vinci Kalaloo. You posted it on my page today Tuesday 8th May, 2…012 at 10:07am. Please note that information contained within points 5-15 is slanderous and libelous. I am giving you 3 days to remove this slanderous and libelous information, failing which you will hear from my legal representative. Get your facts straight before you publish such libelous drivel against my good name and character.
Mrs. Anesia Baptiste
Since the “facts” first stated cannot be verified, Ms Patterson was advised to ask these questions openly to Ms Baptiste. Rather than sue us, perhaps Ms Baptiste should answer the questions to comfort her growing number of supporters.
Vinci Kallaloo remains an ardent supporter of Ms Baptiste’s efforts at public service. However, we also provide a forum where ALL views are welcomed.
Dr Ralph Gonsalves, his wife Eloise and son Storm were among thousands of Christian Pilgrims who braved the bad weather to attend mass at Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity on Christmas day.
The rains were so much that worshippers rushed into the Church of the Nativity under the cover of umbrellas, leaving Manger Square, with its 50ft Christmas tree, deserted.
The sanctuary was packed, and the overflow crowd waited eagerly in an arched corridor for a chance to enter.
Inside the church, supplicants raised their voices in prayer, kissed a plaster statue of baby Jesus and took communion.
Reports indicate that large numbers of pilgrims from around the world came to be there on Christmas. They wanted to be part of the action.
One pilgrim is quoted as saying “This is the place, this is where it all started. It doesn’t get any more special than that.”
Like the rest of the West Bank, Bethlehem fell on hard times after the Palestinian uprising against Israeli occupation broke out in late 2000.
Although civil affairs in the town are run by Palestinian authorities, security control remains in the hands of Israel, which built a barrier around three sides of it to keep Palestinian attackers out.
Palestinians say the barrier has badly hurt its economy, which depends heavily on tourism, by severely restricting movement in and out of the town.
But as the violence has subsided, tourists have returned in large numbers. Turnout for Christmas Eve festivities in Bethlehem was at its highest since the uprising began driving tourists away.
Observers say that an estimated 100,000 visitors streamed into Manger Square yesterday, up from 70,000 the previous year.
With the barrier looming large over the celebrations in Bethlehem, Palestinians have tried to draw attention to their quest for an independent state with this year’s Christmas slogan “Palestine celebrating hope.”
Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas told a meeting of Christian leaders, including Ralph Gonsalves of St. Vincent, that he is committed to reaching peace with Israel.
“I hope they will come back to their senses and understand that we are seekers of peace, not seekers of war or terrorism,” one report quoted Mr Abbas. “The mosque, church and synagogue stand side by side in this Holy Land.”
Israel allowed about 500 members of Gaza’s Christian minority to travel through its territory to the West Bank to celebrate Christmas in Bethlehem. Most of Gaza’s 3,000 Christians belong to the Greek Orthodox denomination, which celebrates Christmas next month.
Dr Gonsalves and members of his delegation were scheduled to visit Georgia and Azerbaijan on official business before returning to St. Vincent on January 3, 2012.
In another few hours, December 25, 2011 will be upon us. It will be Christmas day. This is what all the hustle and bustle is about; this is what all the preparations are all about. And, what a preparation it has been!
In the face of “hard economic times”, we Vincies have shown no signs of letting up. We are celebrating Christmas in ways that only Vincies can.
Apart from acknowledging the advent of the Saviour, a typical Vincy Christmas is marked by
1. Excessive eating;
2. Excessive drinking;
3. All night parties;
4. Drunkenness; and
5. Sexual promiscuity
Even as we do so, people continue to cry out that times are hard. But, is it?
The hectic pace of shopping never slowed down. The streets of Kingstown have been crowded day after day with shoppers and revellers. Money is some how flourishing. Even the prime minister could afford to use tax payers’ money for an extended official trip abroad that would take him to Bethlehem among other cities.
In all of this, where is the reason for the celebration? Where is Christ? Perhaps he is in Bethlehem. Unfortunately though, only the Prime Minister can travel there to find him.
Over the past year, I’ve written some things that have gotten me into trouble with a lot of religious people. On one level, I feel sorry that I have to offend so many people, especially people that I love and respect. On another level, I feel a sense of righteous indignation (at least I hope it’s righteous indignation and not something else) that what passes for Christianity today in the Western world is so far from what Jesus, the Apostles, and the early Church had in mind.
The quotes below cover the period of the first two centuries of Christian history. As far as I know, no respected historian disputes what you are about to read. As you read these quotes, I’d like for you to ask yourself a question. Which is more likely? That the early Church closest in time to the lives of Jesus and the Apostles, started out in error but then gradually came to the truth around the time of Constantine–or the other way around?
Early Christianity was little understood and was regarded with little favor by those who ruled the pagan world. . . . Christians refused to share certain duties of Roman citizens. . . . They would not hold political office. (On the Road to Civilization -A World History, A. K. Heckel and J. G. Sigman, 1937, pp. 237-8)
Zealous Christians did not serve in the armed forces or accept political offices.– World History, The Story of Mans Achievements (River Forest, Ill; 1962) Habberton, Roth and Spears, p. 117.
While among Romans it was considered the highest honor to possess the privileges of Roman citizenship, the Christians announced that they were citizens of heaven. They shrank from public office and military service.– Persecution of the Christians in Gaul, A.D. 177 by F.F.G. Guizot, former prime minister of France, Vol. III of The Great Events by Famous Historians (New York; 1905), Rossiter Johnson, ed, p. 246.
The Early Church and the World, Professor C. J. Cadoux writes: Up to the reign of Marcus Aurelius at least [161-180 C.E.], no Christian would become a soldier after his baptism.
The Encyclopedia of Religion states: The early church fathers, including Tertullian and Origen, affirmed that Christians were constrained from taking human life, a principle that prevented them from participating in the Roman army.
A careful review of all the information available goes to show that, until the time of Marcus Aurelius [Roman emperor from 161 to 180 C.E.], no Christian became a soldier; and no soldier, after becoming a Christian, remained in military service. The Rise of Christianity (London, 1947), E. W. Barnes, p. 333.
The book The Early Christian Attitude to War says: Inasmuch as they [Jesus teachings] ruled out as illicit all use of violence and injury against others, clearly implied [was] the illegitimacy of participation in war . . . The early Christians took Jesus at his word, and understood his inculcations of gentleness and non-resistance in their literal sense. They closely identified their religion with peace; they strongly condemned war for the bloodshed which it involved.
They refused to take any active part in the civil administration or the military defence of the empire. . . . it was impossible that the Christians, without renouncing a more sacred duty, could assume the character of soldiers, of magistrates, or of princes. History of Christianity (New York, 1891), Edward Gibbon, pp. 162, 163.
The behavior of the [early] Christians was very different from that of the Romans. . . . Since Christ had preached peace, they refused to become soldiers. Our World Through the Ages.
And The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, by Edward Gibbon, states: [Early Christians] refused to take any active part in the civil administration or the military defence of the empire. . . . It was impossible that the Christians, without renouncing a more sacred duty, could assume the character of soldiers.
The Catholic Herald of London stated: The first Christians . . . took Jesus at His word and refused to be conscripted into the Roman army even if the penalty was death. Would the whole of history have been different if the Church had stuck to its original stand? . . . If the churches of today could come out with a joint condemnation of war . . . , which would mean that every member would be bound in conscience to be, like the Christians, a conscientious objector, peace might indeed be assured. But we know that this will never happen.
The Christians were strangers and pilgrims in the world around them; their citizenship was in heaven; the kingdom to which they looked was not of this world. The consequent want of interest in public affairs came thus from the outset to be a noticeable feature in Christianity. Christianity and the Roman Government (London; 1925), E. G. Hardy, Principal of Jesus College, Oxford, p. 39.
The emperors disliked Christianity because it seemed unpatriotic and un-Roman. The Course of Civilization, Volume One, (New York; 1961), p. 144.